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32,425 hits 1.7 (3 votes) Share Favorite | Flag 7 years ago by sander

Star Wars takes place a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away. So how come there are humans there?
The non-human characters are OK, Even Jar-jar Binks, but humans? Very unlikely!


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7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 11/14/14 - 11:03:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/14/14 - 9:34:20 AM CowDung wrote:
To me, it makes it sound like humans are so arrogant to think that they are unique in the vastness of the universe.


Even if we started over from scratch on our own planet with the same set of physical conditions, and even if evolution resulted after 4.5 billion years in a (relatively) intelligent, bipedal quadraped with two sexes I think it's highly unlikely that they would be actual Homo sapiens - that is, have the same chromosomal number and structure, developmental mechanisms, and similar enough DNA sequence to successfully interbreed with Homo sapiens.

Given a different planet with different physical inputs and starting points, I find it even more unlikely.

Are we unique? To my mind, probably. Is that something to be particularly proud about or special? Not really. Nematodes are equally unique by that metric.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 11/14/14 - 11:15:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Given that we live in an infinite universe, I don't think it's unlikely at all that the same circumstances that brought us about could occur on other planets...
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 11/14/14 - 11:23:46 AM EST (GMT-5)
...kinda like the monkeys banging on typewriters- - if they are given infinite time, they will recreate the works of Shakespeare.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 11/14/14 - 1:56:40 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/14/14 - 9:20:01 AM snarf wrote:
human to me means a homo sapien that evolved on planet Earth.


Read the culture novels by Iain M Banks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cu...
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 2:19:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
I don't find it unlikely that humans from a long time ago could be advanced enough to travel far, far away and drop off enough of their kind on this planet to survive for as long as we have. Maybe the original settlers were in on it or maybe they had their minds wiped or were just genetic copies.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 2:35:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
Then how do you explain our DNA being a 98% match with chimps?

Hell, we share about 70% with bananas(iirc).

Is evolution an illusion?
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 4:23:33 AM EST (GMT-5)
Why do you think we chose this planet?
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 4:36:00 AM EST (GMT-5)
Because it's far enough away from the radiation of the Galactic core. Everyone loves the suburbs.

I'll grant you that it's possible that we were planted here.

Possible but not probable.

Every living thing would have to have been seeded at the same time we colonized the planet.

There is a marvelous interconnectedness of life here, a beauty that amazes me. When I think about how we can trace life back to a few amino acids that probably came here on a comet it fills me with awe. Then I think about how the process of life was probably repeated billions of times throughout the universe I'm speechless.

I'm more amazed that we survived long enough to become what we are on this insignificant rock than I ever would be by just being abandoned here from elsewhere.

7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 5:02:17 AM EST (GMT-5)
You should also read up on convergent evolution.

Our form has allowed us become the dominant species on our planet, there's no reason why life on another world couldn't evolve beings as near as makes no difference to us, considering how useful we find being like this.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 5:07:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
Yeah I remember hearing once that the humanoid form is probably very common but I can't remember the reason. why. Something top do with this is a really good solution to the needs of a sentient being so it's probably repeated.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 7:03:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Tuesday 11/11/14 - 5:20:49 PM Disappears wrote:
because star wars is not science fiction
On Friday 11/14/14 - 12:32:15 AM griffin_wf wrote:
Of course it is. Just because it isn't the most rigid example doesn't mean it isn't sci-fi. That's like saying Harry Potter isn't fantasy because it takes place on modern day Earth.

Yeah, there's some irony in taking genres based on breaking down barriers and trying to define them rigidly.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 9:16:50 AM EST (GMT-5)
I think it would be fine to call people from other planets human. We could even call them people. But only if they're people, I wouldn't say we should call all animals from other planets human, obviously. Only human animals are people, from this world or any another.

Actually in most SciFi they call earth people human but people from other planets are known by the name of the planet. Romulens from Romulus you know. It gives us a kind of special status among the stars but its as flawed as the way they call every star system a "solar system"

The way I figure it, the best most scientific way would be to call people by the star system they come from, not the planet. For example we'd be Solin from the Solar System because our star our sun is called Sol.

People from say a planet orbiting the star Antares would be Antaren from the Antar System.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 9:19:57 AM EST (GMT-5)
Or some crap, whatever. The point is, let's get a little perspective. We aren't the center of the universe you know Galielo
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 12:44:13 PM EST (GMT-5)
On Friday 11/14/14 - 11:15:00 AM CowDung wrote:
Given that we live in an infinite universe, I don't think it's unlikely at all that the same circumstances that brought us about could occur on other planets...


True. Although the probability of ever encountering such a race, given either the average length of time a species exists on earth or the time until death of our sun or something? infinitesimal.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 12:57:22 PM EST (GMT-5)
The humans in Star Wars didn't encounter anyone from earth- - the issue is if they could have existed 'a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away'.
7 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 11/15/14 - 2:38:10 PM EST (GMT-5)
I think many aliens would be humanoid, but tnot human.
Nature loves to repeat herself.
So symmetrical, biped, with sensory organs on the top, together with the brain (to ensure short reaction time when the sense something).

These will be people, but not humans.

On a side note, I think we should consider including bonobos and dolphins in the "people" category as well.
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 12/18/14 - 11:38:27 PM EST (GMT-5)
Well they're obviously scientific instead of Christian perhaps
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Thursday 12/18/14 - 11:40:14 PM EST (GMT-5)
Dolphins aren't people they're arrogant dumb fish I know ya classified as mammals but you're just big sometimes cute giant fish that sadly have a great aesthetic flaw that damned blowhole
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 5:16:28 AM EST (GMT-5)
On Saturday 11/15/14 - 2:38:10 PM sander wrote:
On a side note, I think we should consider including bonobos and dolphins in the "people" category as well.


Would you include German Shepherds in this?

That's about the level of intelligence we're talking about here.
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 7:41:44 AM EST (GMT-5)
Convergent evolution
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 8:27:53 AM EST (GMT-5)
This whole thread is making me want to watch the Star Wars trilogy again.
I've never sat through them all consecutively.
All three of them.

I think I've only seen them all once it twice each.

Right, that's what I'm doing for Christmas. Star Wars night.
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 8:30:22 AM EST (GMT-5)
*once or twice
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 8:47:40 AM EST (GMT-5)
Stop denying Episodes I-III happened, marbles.

You know what they did. I know what they did. And Lucas knows what he did.

Above all, Lucas knows what he did.
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 11:30:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
I remember going to see Phantom Menace in the cinema in Leeds when i was 6. I threw up in the lobby because i'd drank too many marshmallow milkshakes beforehand.

I got a load of Star Wars stuff for my 7th birthday the following year including the video of Episode 1 and a Darth Maul money bank that moved and swished his lightsaber about. It was the sh*t. There were two other banks with Qui Gon and Obi Wan and when you linked them up they had a proper battle. You can still find them on amazon.

I have a slight fondness for Episode I if only for those memories. Episode II was very forgettable. Episode III i can largely forgive because that had General Grievous in it and that sweet Mustafar battle.
7 yrs ago, 7 mos ago - Friday 12/19/14 - 11:42:21 AM EST (GMT-5)
Oh and that fantastic surgery scene where he gets the suit and helmet on for the first time. I love the music in that scene.

F*ck it, we'll watch the six of 'em.

And Phantom Menace for PS1 was my childhood. Running around Coruscant as Panaka.Trying to buy a T-14 off Watto. Escorting the Queen through Theed, which was f*cking impossible. All precious memories.

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