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27,348 hits Rate me! Share Favorite | Flag 15 years ago by Kwikspur

Which sport takes more guts and hard work?


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15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 5:24:10 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/3/2006 7:52:05 AM Kwikspur wrote:
So because I created this topic I'm not allowed to debate?

There's nothing to debate when someone respectfully and considerately states challenging aspects of each. There's stating your case and then there's insisting on only your case. It seems like you're doing the latter.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 7:46:15 AM EST (GMT-5)
I argued:
On 8/17/2006 8:29:47 PM Eccademus wrote:
Guts - Football. Hard work - Cross country.

This is not a complex thought and is very general. There's no thoughts given to support it, SO I argue it asking how he came to the conclusion that Cross Country does not take guts. From the way it sounds, your definition of debate would be to never defend a side. How was it wrong that I took the quote and asked a question to see it more thought out that a four word poorly expessed statement. Straight-forward doesn't usually mean it's a well thought out sentance.

You interpreted me as some crazy, psychopathic teenager sitting behind his computer monitor meanacingly ranting and raving about how he said XC doesn't take any guts. I never did such a thing, and if you re-read what I said, I simply asked how he came to the conclusion that Cross Country took no guts. I never stated a thing about football, I'd be willing to agree if he actually explained his thought process.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 7:48:58 AM EST (GMT-5)
And on a side note

"You don't sound any more advanced beyond one-track thinking than the football players you would call neanderthals. Not only is cross-country more demanding, it's not even close, huh? It's a shut-out, huh?"

I never said it was a shut out, I said Cross Country DOES take guts. A lot. And he seemed to be forgetting that. I never said Football didn't take hardwork or guts. Look at what you're saying before you begin accusing OTHER people of being rash and general.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 1:07:41 PM EST (GMT-5)
how does cross country take guts?
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 3:34:31 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/4/2006 1:07:42 PM blacwkhite wrote:
how does cross country take guts?

Because it takes guts and a lot of inner strength to, when you feel so utterly physically exhausted, look up a 1.6 mile hill and RUN the whole way up. In the cold snow/rain/heat. Cross Country is a huge mental sport.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 4:58:15 PM EST (GMT-5)
Kwikspur- That's just sports. I've done a lot of sports, track included, and having the "guts" and the mental fortitude to push yourself past what you think you can take is part of what gives sports such a big appeal. We love doing it, and we love watching others do it. Having the guts to stand in front of a center twice your size when you are already in pain from getting pummeled by him for half and hour. Having the guts to stay light in your feet and Bob and Weave, when your head is pounding so hard, all you want to do in clench till the bell rings. Having the guts to go for 3rd base, when you know the pitcher has his eye on you.

Guts are just a part of sports. It doesn't make any one sport special from the others, it is the uniting factor. Guts dont make Cross Country unique, it makes Cross Country a sport.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Wednesday 10/4/06 - 6:03:28 PM EST (GMT-5)
Wow. Good response. I agree. At least you see Cross Country as a sport though, a lot of people at my school really don't think it is. They put it among the ranks of golf and such.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/5/06 - 12:54:43 AM EST (GMT-5)
Thanks. Cross country is a sport. Of course, I have a very lose way of defining "sport." I define sport as something that pits you against something else (I treat life like a sport, it's all just a ride, as Bill hicks would say).

Crosscountry is looks at on par (no pun intended) with golf because of who you are facing. It is more a battle of your own will and skill then it is facing other people. Conventional sports need 2 teams, because you are being put up against other humans.

15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/5/06 - 4:57:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
Kwik, Ec didn't have to elaborate much to surpass your thoughts here. He saw one sport requiring more work and one sport requiring more guts. You couldn't accept his opinion. You have an agenda here and it's made you tyrannical.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/5/06 - 5:05:18 AM EST (GMT-5)
Cross Country takes more determination.
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/5/06 - 6:48:18 AM EST (GMT-5)
Football!
15 yrs ago, 9 mos ago - Thursday 10/5/06 - 11:37:32 AM EST (GMT-5)
cross country
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 10:39:14 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/3/2006 4:24:25 PM Txfireman wrote:
On 10/2/2006 1:47:25 PM omgwtfho wrote: Rugby. Any american football player could not last two seconds playing rugby. Please. Rugby is gay, and the violence is contribed. A bunch of talentless hosses running around kicking eachothers ass isn't my idea of a good sport! I'll take the skill and strategy of football over the mindless action of Rugby any day.

Obviously you've never played. If you didn't have strategy before you got on the feild you'd have to be carried off it in a stretcher 2 mins into it. It's like football, only there's no padding, no helmets, and the rules are a lot more lax. Ie, not a game for the wimps.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 5:14:02 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/7/2006 10:39:14 AM omgwtfho wrote:
Obviously you've never played. If you didn't have strategy before you got on the feild you'd have to be carried off it in a stretcher 2 mins into it. It's like football, only there's no padding, no helmets, and the rules are a lot more lax. Ie, not a game for the wimps.

Oh, I've played it. Lame. It is WAY more like soccer then football. The line, the ball shape, and the goal posts are the only things it has in common with football. The strategy is there, yes, American Football has MUCH more thought and strategy in it. It is a much smarter game.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 8:20:12 PM EST (GMT-5)
Football. Ever seen somebody break someone else's spine in Cross Country?
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 9:54:37 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/19/2006 4:27:27 PM cheesecar wrote:
doesn't take guts to run, takes guts to get dogpiled on by about 10 gigantic football players

Have you ever been to the start of a 300 person invitational where chances are people will fall and get trampled by sharp METAL spikes?

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 9:59:00 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/14/2006 7:31:36 AM dolphine wrote:
What a crap question. I can't answer this. American football requires more guts. Cross country requires roughly zero guts. Cross country requires more hard work. It's an individual sport where you only get better through hard work. You can't rely on team mates or anything. Unanswerable.

Cross country is one of the few running sports that is truely a team sport.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Saturday 10/7/06 - 11:25:03 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/7/2006 8:20:13 PM bionicRod wrote:
Football. Ever seen somebody break someone else's spine in Cross Country?

No, but I've never seen that in football either.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Sunday 10/8/06 - 9:29:41 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/7/2006 11:25:04 PM Kwikspur wrote:
No, but I've never seen that in football either.

I saw it at work yesterday, at a 6-on-6 game, where both school where smaller then the smallest district.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Friday 10/20/06 - 12:17:08 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/4/2006 3:34:32 PM Kwikspur wrote:
On 10/4/2006 1:07:42 PM blacwkhite wrote: how does cross country take guts? Because it takes guts and a lot of inner strength to, when you feel so utterly physically exhausted, look up a 1.6 mile hill and RUN the whole way up. In the cold snow/rain/heat. Cross Country is a huge mental sport.


that takes physical strength

nothing gutsy about trying to run up a hill or down a road just because

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Sunday 10/29/06 - 3:27:48 AM EST (GMT-5)
On 10/20/2006 12:17:08 AM blacwkhite wrote:
that takes physical strength nothing gutsy about trying to run up a hill or down a road just because

your logic would also then think that taking down a 400 lb linebacker only requires physical strength.

both take guts because if you aren't pushing yourself harder than your physical strength allows then you aren't playing a sport.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Sunday 10/29/06 - 5:21:06 AM EST (GMT-5)
I'd say cross-country.
15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Sunday 10/29/06 - 4:31:33 PM EST (GMT-5)
On 8/6/2006 1:54:23 AM Kwikspur wrote:
There is always a debate going at my school.

At my school, the football players always fight with the swimmers about whether or not swimming is a real sport.


That's a tough one. I see both sides, but it seems like cross country has an edge on the mental toughness.

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 10/30/06 - 2:20:11 AM EST (GMT-5)
Cross Country, American football is for paaaaansies! Who the hell named it! You don't kick the ball across the field!!

Rugby all the way!

15 yrs ago, 8 mos ago - Monday 10/30/06 - 10:45:05 AM EST (GMT-5)
Football, there's more physical work.

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