This was good, but because I kept getting distracted, I think I missed some important points. Now, did the killer actually commit seven murders, one for each deadly sin? And his method of killing is supposed to somehow tie in with the person's deadly sin, right? In which case some of the methods don't make sense. See spoiler next post.
The first was gluttony and I get that killing. Obviously the killer forced food down the guy's throat until he died. The next was greed, and the killer had him bled to death. The only way I can make sense of that is that maybe the person was so money hungry that they bled others dry, so the killer literally bled him dry. I can get pride where he cut off the girl's nose to spite her face, but that alone wouldn't killer, would it? And I got the lust where he force the guy to where the knife on his ding-dong to kill the prostitute. I didn't catch what he did for anger or envy. And I saw the condition of the guy he killed for sloth, but I don't get what exactly he did to him. Anybody care to shed some light on this for me?
I predicted EVERYTHING.
It knew so early on that the wife was going to get killed.
And I kneew the killer was the photographer guy right when he appeared.
I KNEW EVERYTHING WAY BEFORE EVERYTHING HAPPENED.
I did still enjoy it. It was okay.
But that took out of the entertainment value for me.
I agree with you. I didn't predict everything, but I don't think it was all that gory. I mean, what the killer was doing was sick, yeah, but not necessarily in a gory way. I love Morgan Freeman, too. He's always good.
i think the ideas of what he did were shocking, even if it shied away from showing them occurring in graphic detail. to me, that's as bad or worse than actually seeing them. just the concept of the lust murder for example was pretty argh
and the atmosphere, that does a lot for me in terms of how horror...y something is. i thought it did that well, and as such i totally bought the sickness
but then again, i saw it before i then saw a lot of other things when i was younger and if i saw it for the first time now, i probably wouldn't be as shocked
probably due to OTHER things I've seen, read, heard.
Also, I was eating my lunch during the whole gluttony crime scene part. I was fine, didn't feel sick or anything...but I had no other time to watch the movie. I had to watch it during lunch on my break from work because I had to return the DVD right after.
I think visually that was the worst part. Not the worst ever but I did feel like, if I didn't have to eat, I wouldn't be eating while watching it.
But luckily I have a strong stomach with that stuff. Visuals don't make me feel sick ever.
Most shocking as for.... what the killer did.... out of everything...
Um, well, due to having a vagina...you can just guess which part personally affected me the most...
but when you reaaaaally think about sloth man situation,
It seems like the worst. Probably due to the whole...how prolonged it was...just everything about it...
I think watching such a movie on dvd takes a lot of the dark atmosphere this film created in the cinema.
Also, I guess you should have first seen it in its temporal context.
a) Kevin Spacey was just at the beginning of his super stardom and in 1995 you didn't automatically think "that's the important guy to watch" the first time he appeared onscreen.
b) This is pre-Ring or torture-cinema for adult viewing horror. People weren't that emotionally dulled from evereyday horror overkill back in the day.
Weird thing is...
I FORGOT WHAT KEVIN SPACEY LOOKS LIKE and I had no idea he was Kevin Spacey until AFTER I watched the film and went to imdb. I had no idea Kevin Spacey was Kevin Spacey even though I know what Kevin Spacey looks like.
Matthias, there are plenty of far more shocking films that are older than Se7en...but perhaps the shockingness was shocking at the time because that kind of material hadn't been in the mainstream much before?
Nowadays torture cinema for adult viewing horror IS mainstream....
So, yeah, I guess the majority of people weren't desensitized from it back when this came out.